Monday, November 1, 2021

Popular Optics Ready Compacts And Subcompacts - Out Of The Box Pros And Cons

At RFV Tactical, concealed carry is our jam! We daily carry compact handguns with full-size weapon mounted lights 90% of the time and subcompact handguns the other 10% of the time (14 hours a day, 7 days a week). There are plenty of reviews on the popular compact and subcompact optic ready handguns listed below, so this article is just focusing on the most obvious Pro and the most glaring Con of each gun when they are fresh out of the box without any modifications done or accessories added. There are obviously more optics ready compact and subcompact handguns currently available, but we actually own and have experience with all of the guns below for holster making purposes as they seem to be the most popular in their given categories. By the way... the guns are listed in the order of our preference with the best at the top of each category.

Compact Handguns

Biggest Pro: Excellent Trigger
Biggest Con: Stiff Slide Release
The trigger of the CZ P-10C is one of the best out of the box triggers that we've seen (surpassed only by the Walther PPQ/PDP). In regards to break, reset, and pull weight, it is as close to a 1911/2011 trigger as you can get with a factory striker fired polymer gun. The biggest problem with this gun is that the slide release lever is extremely stiff and difficult to actuate when the gun is brand new.  This issue improves over time with use, but its very noticeable and frustrating when new.
Shown with a Holosun 509T optic on a CHPWS
optic mounting plate and RFV Tactical grip texture

Staccato C2 DPO 2011
Biggest Pro: Excellent Trigger
Biggest Con: Expensive
The incredible feel of the single action only trigger design of the 1911 makes it the standard by which all other triggers are compared to and strive to achieve. It is nearly impossible for a hinged striker fired trigger to safely replicate the feel of the 1911 trigger. The Staccato 2011 series of handguns offer that sought after 1911 trigger with increased capacity for duty or concealed carry use. Unfortunately, most high quality 1911s and 2011s are also very expensive and the C2 is approximately 4 times the cost of most polymer frame handguns in the same category.
Shown with a Trijicon RM06 optic on a milled non-DPO
slide using a Trijicon 1911/2011 specific mounting plate

Glock 19 Gen5 MOS
Biggest Pro: Aftermarket Support
Biggest Con: Grip Angle
The Glock 19 is the standard by which all other polymer frame handguns are compared. However, the Glock handgun has remained relatively unchanged for several decades with only small improvements with each new generation.  Thankfully, there is a huge variety of aftermarket support to improve and customize just about every aspect of the gun.  The biggest complaint about the Glock 19 (and most other Glock models) is that the grip angle is substantially different from most other modern handguns, and not in a good way. People go to great lengths to modify the grip angle of Glocks with the addition of aftermarket beavertail backstraps or even permanent modifications like trigger guard under-cuts and grip reductions that remove the infamous "Glock Hump" on the lower half of the grip's backstrap.
Shown with a Trijicon RM06 optic on a CHPWS optic mounting plate,
Ameriglo sights, a modified OEM backstrap, and a re-contoured trigger guard

Smith & Wesson M&P9 M2.0 Compact OR
Biggest Pro: Optic Mounting System
Biggest Con: Trigger
While the M&P optic mounting system uses plastic filler plates for different optics, it is one of the most robust factory optic mounting systems available. It includes 7 different filler plates and screws for a wide variety of optics, and the mounting screws for any compatible optic go directly and deeply into the slide for a very solid and secure installation. The factory trigger with it's hinged safety design is this gun's biggest and possibly only flaw.  The trigger isn't horrible by any means, but it is commonly replaced with a drastically improved trigger kit from Apex Tactical.
Shown with a Holosun 508T optic
and an Apex Tactical curved trigger

Walther PDP Compact
Biggest Pro: Excellent Trigger
Biggest Con: Optic Mounting System
The Walther PPQ is very well known for its excellent factory trigger. The PDP is an updated optics ready version of the PPQ with better grip texture and aggressive slide serrations. The PDP's trigger feel is very similar to the CZ P-10C but is a half a pound lighter and about 1mm shorter reset. It is a phenomenal trigger for a factory striker fired handgun. The biggest issue with the gun is that the optics mounting system does not have any type of locating lugs or recoil bosses for an optic mounting plate to index on. It is simply just a flat pocket milled into the slide with two threaded holes for the screws to hold an optic mounting plate in place. If the optic mounting plate that is used is not precision cut to perfectly fit that milled pocket front to back, there will be unnecessary shear forces placed on the mounting screws each time the gun cycles during recoil which could potentially fatigue and break them.
Shown with a Holosun 509T optic
on a CHPWS optic mounting plate

Sig Sauer P320 XCarry/XCompact
Biggest Pro: Modularity
Biggest Con: High Bore Axis
The modularity of the Sig P320 fire control unit (FCU) is such a great innovation that comes with a really smooth trigger pull (especially with the X-series).  You can essentially build multiple guns for different purposes with only one serialized FCU by simply purchasing additional slides/barrels and grip modules. The biggest downside to the Sig P320 series is that it has a very high bore axis for a striker fired gun which causes more muzzle flip compared to other guns in the same category. The increased muzzle flip isn't a night and day difference, but it is definitely noticeable.
Shown with a Sig Romeo1Pro optic
and RFV Tactical grip chop and texture

Springfield XD-M Elite Compact OSP
Biggest Pro: Decent Trigger
Biggest Con: Overall Design and Execution
While the Elite series of the Springfield XD-M handguns have fairly decent triggers and the guns look pretty good aesthetically, the overall design and execution of all the XD handguns is simply subpar. Their grip texture looks aggressive, but is actually fairly smooth. Their grip safeties are unnecessary and historically problematic. The grip length of this compact is more of a subcompact length which makes it awkward to get a good grip with or without the included magwell (why offer a flared magwell with a subcompact grip length?!?) and it reduces the capacity of the gun compared to other similar sized guns. The gun is also heavier than all of the other polymer frame guns in the category.  All that weight is in the slide, which makes the gun feel very top heavy. To top it all off, their optic mounting system places the optic abnormally high on the top of the slide, which requires extremely tall iron sights to be able to co-witness through the optic window (not included with the gun).
Shown with a Hex Dragonfly optic and a
modified Pearce magazine pinky extension

Subcompact Handguns

Glock 43X/48 MOS
Biggest Pro: Aftermarket Support
Biggest Con: Capacity vs. Size
As with the Glock 19, there is a ton of aftermarket support for these guns to upgrade and customize to your heart's content. The biggest issue is that the factory magazines only hold 10 rounds despite the gun having a fairly long grip compared to smaller micro compact handguns that can hold up to 12 rounds with a flush fitting magazine. That previously mentioned aftermarket support addresses this flaw with flush fit 15-round magazines available from Shield Arms.
Shown with a Swampfox Sentinel optic
and RFV Tactical grip texture

Smith & Wesson M&P9 Shield Plus OR
Biggest Pro: Great Trigger
Biggest Con: No Accessory Rail
While the increased capacity of the Shield Plus is a welcomed improvement over the original Shield, the new and improved trigger in the gun is great for a factory trigger. The lack of an accessory rail to mount a compact weapon light is the only thing that keeps this gun from being perfect.
Shown with a Holosun 507K optic and a
shortened Pearce magazine pinky extension

Sig Sauer P365X/P365XL
Biggest Pro: Capacity vs. Size
Biggest Con: Small Grip Circumference
The Sig P365 is the gun that started the "High Capacity Micro Compact" trend that all other new subcompacts strive to achieve. It's high capacity for its size makes it very appealing, but it has the smallest grip circumference of all the latest micro compact handguns.  This may be fine for people with small hands, but the reduced grip surface area can be problematic for people with average size or larger hands to get a good grip on the gun with both hands.
Shown with a Sig RomeoZero optic

Springfield Hellcat OSP
Biggest Pro: Capacity vs. Size
Biggest Con: Heavy Trigger
This gun looks great and is almost identical in size and capacity to the Sig P365, but it has a fairly heavy trigger compared to the other micro compact guns, which makes it a little difficult to be accurate with the gun past 10 yards even with a properly zeroed optic installed.
Shown with a Shield Sights RMSc optic

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Thursday, October 21, 2021

Dual Purpose IWB/OWB Combo Weapon Light Indexing Holsters

We now offer dual purpose IWB/OWB combo full-size weapon light indexing holsters. They can be changed from IWB for concealed carry use to OWB for competition or general range use in just a few minutes by simply installing an OWB belt mount! There's no real need to remove the IWB hardware from the holster for OWB usage unless you just want to. 😉 They come with a FOMI belt clip, concealment fin, comfort puck, and an OWB belt mount. These dual purpose holsters are made with 0.080" thick Kydex.

IWB on the left and OWB on the right...

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Sunday, October 17, 2021

Sig P320 XCARRY Grip Chop and Texture

Here is a Sig Sauer P320 XCARRY that we just did a grip chop to accept the 15-round compact mags with our concealed carry texture. The XCARRY grip module looks and feels great (especially with our texture!), but its just a tad too long for concealed carry with it's 17-round magazines.  The Sig P320 XCOMPACT is a great compromise for concealed carry, but we prefer the longer length of the 3.9" barrel, slide, and dust cover of the XCARRY vs the 3.6" barrel/slide of the XCOMPACT.  So... grip chop it is! 😁

Here is the chopped XCARRY grip compared
to an unmodified large XCOMPACT grip module

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Thursday, July 15, 2021

Polymer Frame/Grip Texturing FAQs

Below are some frequently asked questions and answers about our polymer frame/grip texturing service.  If you don't see the question/answer that you are wanting please contact us via email or a direct message on Instagram or Facebook!

Aggressive Competition style texture on the left, and
less aggressive Concealed Carry style texture on the right.

Q: Do you offer "gap" or "recessed" borders?

A: Those types of borders look great when done properly, but we don't offer any type of special borders due to the amount of time it takes to make them look good.  If you want those types of borders on your polymer frame/grip, then there are a lot of professionals out there that specialize in them.

Q: Do you offer other textures besides your Concealed Carry or Competition textures?

A: Over several years we have developed and refined the technique that we use to consistently produce our Concealed Carry and Competition textures, and we feel that it looks great and is very functional, so we are sticking to those two textures for now.  If you want a specific texture, then it's best to send your polymer frame/grip to someone that specializes in that particular type of texture.

Q: Do you texture different colored polymer frames?

A: Currently we only provide texture service for black polymer frames and grips.  The technique that we use to consistently produce our texture does not work well with colored polymer as it tends to leave a lot of burned or discolored areas within the polymer that is almost impossible to avoid or remove. Colored polymer frames/grips require a specific technique, a specific heat range, and extra special care to avoid these discolored areas.

Q: Do you offer any frame/grip modifications along with your texturing?

A: We can do some basic stuff like trigger guard undercuts and finger groove removal on Glocks. We've even done a few grip chops, but we currently don't do any modifications that require structural changes to the frame/grip due to liability issues.  If you are wanting something specific, send us an email or a direct message on Instagram or Facebook to discuss.

Q: What is your lead time to get a frame/grip textured?

A: That really depends on what is already in the queue, but we are certainly not back-logged like the more well-known professionals out there. Once we receive your frame/grip, we can typically get it done and shipped back out to you or your FFL within a week.

Q: How do I ship you my frame/grip if I am not in the Texas Panhandle area?

A: If the item you are shipping is considered a serialized firearm, then you'll need to ship it to us per Federal regulations. Contact us for our FFL's contact/shipping information.  You will be responsible for the cost of shipping the frame/grip to our FFL, and you will be responsible for the cost of the transfer back to you at your local FFL when you pick it up.  We will cover the cost of the FFL transfer on our end to receive the frame, but the return shipping back to your FFL will be $65 which includes additional insurance. If the item you are shipping is NOT considered a serialized firearm (i.e. - Sig P320 grip modules or 2011 grip modules), then you can ship it directly to us and we can ship it directly back to you when done at a less expensive rate.

Q: Your rate is $25 per hour, but how many hours will it take for my frame/grip?

A: It usually takes 4 to 6 hours to prep and texture a polymer frame/grip once it's on the bench depending on what is involved, so the average cost is around $100 to $150 plus $65 for return shipping if applicable.

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Sunday, May 16, 2021

CZ P-09 Grip Chop and Texture

Here is a CZ P-09 that we just did a grip chop to P-07 size with our concealed carry texture. This one was a little more difficult to do than the Glock 17 grip chop that we did recently, but it turned out really nice. Similarly to the Glock 17 grip chop, we added a little bit of material to the bottom lip of the front strap so that it lines up with the magazine base plate. The grip can now accommodate the flush fitting 15-round P-07 magazines for ultimate concealment or the extended 17-round P-07 magazines, which still make the gun shorter than the ultra long P-09 grip length. 👌

The unmodified P-09 frame.

A P-07 backstrap in place prior to cutting.

Initial cut to a P-07 size.

Original texture smoothed out and ready for new texture. We added extra material to the bottom lip of the front strap so that it lines up with the magazine base pad.

Finished texture with a 4mm smooth border at the bottom.

Compared to a stock P-07 frame.

With a flush fit 15-round magazine inserted.

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Friday, April 16, 2021

Modified FOMI Belt Clip for IWB Holsters

We use the authentic USA made FOMI belt clips (Fold Over Mold Injected) as a standard belt clip on our light indexing IWB holsters. These belt clips are very durable (made of Nylon 66) and are very convenient for putting the holster on or taking it off the belt. The only problem with these clips is that the large reverse tab at the bottom of the clip that makes them so easy on/off can sometimes get bumped against something and inadvertently get dislodged from the belt, or loose clothing can occasionally get snagged under the tab which may impede accessing the gun quickly in a high stress situation. We offer a modified version of the FOMI belt clip for our light indexing IWB holsters by request at no additional charge.  This trimmed down version of the clip makes it more secure on the belt, virtually eliminates the chance of clothing getting snagged under the end of the clip, and it reduces the overall bulk of the clip for less printing under clothing. The caveat is that it makes getting the clip on and off the belt just a little less easy, but we think it's worth the extra security and peace of mind.

Modified version on the left vs standard version on the right

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Tuesday, April 6, 2021

Glock 17 Grip Chop and Texture

Just finished up this Gen3 Glock 17 with a grip chop to a Glock 19 size. Finger groove removal, recontoured trigger guard, concealed carry texture, beveled magwell opening, and also added a lip to the bottom of the front strap to give the Magpul magwell something to hook onto. 👍

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Popular Optics Ready Compacts And Subcompacts - Out Of The Box Pros And Cons

At  RFV Tactical , concealed carry is our jam! We daily carry compact handguns with full-size weapon mounted lights 90% of the time and sub...